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amekler
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 Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:13 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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Not that i know of
Heated hangar in new hampshire
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[quote] On Feb 11, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
Those don't look so good. Are there any strange environmental
situations that you store or fly the airplane in?
I've had Rapco pads for about the last 3 or so changes now,
and they really look just like the Cleaveland ones pretty much
when they're worn down....and they have worked well almost
all the way down to the rivets. So I'm curious if there is
some strange environmental things going on.
Tim
> On 2/11/2014 7:00 PM, Alan Mekler MD wrote:
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> On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:07 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net
> <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>> wrote:
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>> <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>>
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>> no i didn’t build my plane so i need a mechanic. both my A&Ps have
>> built and own RVs.
>> alan
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com
>> <mailto:rv10flyer(at)live.com>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> <mailto:rv10flyer(at)live.com>>
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>>> I have a early version of the 112's and they have been working very
>>> nicely and evenly. I gather you need a mechanic because you didn’t
>>> build the plane? I never let anyone touch my plane. Heard of too many
>>> planes going down within 1 hour of a mechanic signing it off as good
>>> for the annual. I replaced my pads last November with the Rapcos and
>>> they too were very well work through.
>>> pascal
>>>
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amekler
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:18 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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The disc looks fine
This was my first set of rapcos installed in may
Wll send the pictures to rapco.
This was the left side
If it wasn't for the caliber leaking i won't have found this. Brakes worked fine.
Didn't check the right side.
Will probably wait to annual in may.
Alan
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[quote] On Feb 11, 2014, at 10:46 PM, "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com> wrote:
what does the brake disc look like? these look like they are relatively unused but almost like something effected them. Replacing was a good call, but what caused this that may do the same thing to the new pads?
BTW- I did not mean any disrespect to the A&P, I was simply mentioning that I don’t always trust what they tell me about my airplane. in this case he made a good call. It’s not the Rapco its something the pads are reacting to is my guess.
I would send this picture to Rapco and get their feedback.
Pascal
From: Alan Mekler MD
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:00 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: rapco pads
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> On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:07 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
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> no i didn’t build my plane so i need a mechanic. both my A&Ps have built and own RVs.
> alan
>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com> wrote:
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>> I have a early version of the 112's and they have been working very nicely and evenly. I gather you need a mechanic because you didn’t build the plane? I never let anyone touch my plane. Heard of too many planes going down within 1 hour of a mechanic signing it off as good for the annual. I replaced my pads last November with the Rapcos and they too were very well work through.
>> pascal
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:13 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different than the material they've used for years though.
Tim
[quote] On Feb 12, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
The disc looks fine
This was my first set of rapcos installed in may
Wll send the pictures to rapco.
This was the left side
If it wasn't for the caliber leaking i won't have found this. Brakes worked fine.
Didn't check the right side.
Will probably wait to annual in may.
Alan
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 11, 2014, at 10:46 PM, "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com> wrote:
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> what does the brake disc look like? these look like they are relatively unused but almost like something effected them. Replacing was a good call, but what caused this that may do the same thing to the new pads?
> BTW- I did not mean any disrespect to the A&P, I was simply mentioning that I don’t always trust what they tell me about my airplane. in this case he made a good call. It’s not the Rapco its something the pads are reacting to is my guess.
> I would send this picture to Rapco and get their feedback.
> Pascal
>
> From: Alan Mekler MD
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:00 PM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: rapco pads
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>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:07 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net> wrote:
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>> no i didn’t build my plane so i need a mechanic. both my A&Ps have built and own RVs.
>> alan
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> I have a early version of the 112's and they have been working very nicely and evenly. I gather you need a mechanic because you didn’t build the plane? I never let anyone touch my plane. Heard of too many planes going down within 1 hour of a mechanic signing it off as good for the annual. I replaced my pads last November with the Rapcos and they too were very well work through.
>>> pascal
>>>
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Kellym
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
steering that forces some use of the brakes.
On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
[quote] It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
than the material they've used for years though.
Tim
On Feb 12, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net
<mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>> wrote:
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> The disc looks fine
> This was my first set of rapcos installed in may
> Wll send the pictures to rapco.
> This was the left side
> If it wasn't for the caliber leaking i won't have found this. Brakes
> worked fine.
> Didn't check the right side.
> Will probably wait to annual in may.
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 11, 2014, at 10:46 PM, "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com
> <mailto:rv10flyer(at)live.com>> wrote:
>
>> what does the brake disc look like? these look like they are
>> relatively unused but almost like something effected them. Replacing
>> was a good call, but what caused this that may do the same thing to
>> the new pads?
>> BTW- I did not mean any disrespect to the A&P, I was simply
>> mentioning that I don’t always trust what they tell me about my
>> airplane. in this case he made a good call. It’s not the Rapco its
>> something the pads are reacting to is my guess.
>> I would send this picture to Rapco and get their feedback.
>> Pascal
>> *From:* Alan Mekler MD <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:00 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: rapco pads
>> <IMG_0361.jpg>
>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:07 AM, Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net
>> <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> <amekler(at)metrocast.net <mailto:amekler(at)metrocast.net>>
>>>
>>> no i didn’t build my plane so i need a mechanic. both my A&Ps have
>>> built and own RVs.
>>> alan
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com
>>> <mailto:rv10flyer(at)live.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:rv10flyer(at)live.com>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a early version of the 112's and they have been working
>>>> very nicely and evenly. I gather you need a mechanic because you
>>>> didn’t build the plane? I never let anyone touch my plane. Heard
>>>> of too many planes going down within 1 hour of a mechanic signing
>>>> it off as good for the annual. I replaced my pads last November
>>>> with the Rapcos and they too were very well work through.
>>>> pascal
>>>>
>>>> --
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:17 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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There have been fires on RV-10's from excessive braking.
I think at least one was a real fire, but I know that there
have been cases of melted tires too. One was during high
speed taxi that I know of. So it's worth repeating...one
of the biggest things you need to do as a pilot of an
RV-10 is not ride the brakes. You shouldn't do it on
any plane, but the RV-10 as Kelly mentions, doesn't have
that steering nosewheel so people tend to ride them more.
I went through my first set of brake pads MUCH faster than
the 2nd set.....I had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Tim
On 2/12/2014 8:29 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
steering that forces some use of the brakes.
On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
> It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
> bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
> that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
> Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
> many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
> others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
> bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
> us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
> didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
> than the material they've used for years though.
> Tim
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partner14
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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Ditto Tim... we have a few people here that just insist that you can't steer the 10 with the rudder.... "Most" of the time that isn't true. The only time it's a problem is when you have a low or idle power setting.... but even then, use alllll the rudder you can and simply assist with the brakes.... not the other way around. Last annual I wrote on the pad the date, and the thickness. In 13 months it only wore off .035".
Don McDonald
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:29 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
There have been fires on RV-10's from excessive braking.
I think at least one was a real fire, but I know that there
have been cases of melted tires too. One was during high
speed taxi that I know of. So it's worth repeating...one
of the biggest things you need to do as a pilot of an
RV-10 is not ride the brakes. You shouldn't do it on
any plane, but the RV-10 as Kelly mentions, doesn't have
that steering nosewheel so people tend to ride them more.
I went through my first set of brake pads MUCH faster than
the 2nd set.....I had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Tim
On 2/12/2014 8:29 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>
I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
steering that forces some use of the brakes.
On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
> It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
> bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
> that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
> Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
> many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
> others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
> bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
> us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
> didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
> than the m/www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" ="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics  tronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contri================
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amekler
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:55 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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Good advice Tim
I was a former mooney pilot
Easy to flat spot a tire if you braked above 45 kts
Alan
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| Quote: | On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
There have been fires on RV-10's from excessive braking.
I think at least one was a real fire, but I know that there
have been cases of melted tires too. One was during high
speed taxi that I know of. So it's worth repeating...one
of the biggest things you need to do as a pilot of an
RV-10 is not ride the brakes. You shouldn't do it on
any plane, but the RV-10 as Kelly mentions, doesn't have
that steering nosewheel so people tend to ride them more.
I went through my first set of brake pads MUCH faster than
the 2nd set.....I had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Tim
> On 2/12/2014 8:29 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>
> I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
> introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
> Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
> memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
> excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
> steering that forces some use of the brakes.
>
>> On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>> It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
>> bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
>> that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
>> Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
>> many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
>> others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
>> bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
>> us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
>> didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
>> than the material they've used for years though.
>> Tim
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jdriggs49(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:13 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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I burned up a tire before I discovered that the master cylinder wasn't releasing pressure after the brakes had been released. Carbonized the sidewall and started really smoking. Had to replace the tire and also had to put some springs on the master cylinders so that they would release. My A&P said that he had to also put springs on the master cylinder of the Pitts S-2 he built. Apparently that is a common problem with these things.
| Quote: | Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:16:55 -0600
From: Tim(at)MyRV10.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: rapco pads
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>
There have been fires on RV-10's from excessive braking.
I think at least one was a real fire, but I know that there
have been cases of melted tires too. One was during high
speed taxi that I know of. So it's worth repeating...one
of the biggest things you need to do as a pilot of an
RV-10 is not ride the brakes. You shouldn't do it on
any plane, but the RV-10 as Kelly mentions, doesn't have
that steering nosewheel so people tend to ride them more.
I went through my first set of brake pads MUCH faster than
the 2nd set.....I had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Tim
On 2/12/2014 8:29 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
>
> I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
> introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
> Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
> memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
> excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
> steering that forces some use of the brakes.
>
> On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>> It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
>> bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
>> that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
>> Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
>> many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
>> others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
>> bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
>> us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
>> didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
>> than the material they've used for years though.
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:48 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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I had a dragging brake problem. It turned out to be a rolled 'O' ring in
the brake caliper. It took just a couple of take offs and landings for me
to realize I had a problem but in that short amount of time it trashed the
pads and tire on that side. I attribute the uneven tire wear to the brake
dragging during taxi, but stopping the tire enough to let it scuff the
runway for the short period of time before liftoff and on landing.
If you see such an uneven tire wear - check the pads.
Carl
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:31 am Post subject: rapco pads |
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Staying off the brakes as much as possible works.
I'm at 400 hours - at 350 hours I still had more original pad than I could justify replacing. A big part is probably basing on a grass field where high speed braking is redundant. The other part is being a tailwheel guy. At first I tried to break my habit of taxiing with sometimes frequent full rudder deflections, then I realized that it was perfectly appropriated for a swiveling nose wheel on grass.
Otherwise I try to limit high speed braking to hard surface landings when the roll-out speed drops to the main gear flutter speed. Then I brake to get below the flutter speed. Otherwise I try to let taxiways slip by until slow enough to exit with minimal braking.
On 2/12/2014 10:36 AM, Don McDonald wrote:
[quote] Ditto Tim... we have a few people here that just insist that you can't steer the 10 with the rudder.... "Most" of the time that isn't true. The only time it's a problem is when you have a low or idle power setting.... but even then, use alllll the rudder you can and simply assist with the brakes.... not the other way around. Last annual I wrote on the pad the date, and the thickness. In 13 months it only wore off .035".
Don McDonald
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:29 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> (Tim(at)MyRV10.com) wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
There have been fires on RV-10's from excessive braking.
I think at least one was a real fire, but I know that there
have been cases of melted tires too. One was during high
speed taxi that I know of. So it's worth repeating...one
of the biggest things you need to do as a pilot of an
RV-10 is not ride the brakes. You shouldn't do it on
any plane, but the RV-10 as Kelly mentions, doesn't have
that steering nosewheel so people tend to ride them more.
I went through my first set of brake pads MUCH faster than
the 2nd set.....I had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Tim
On 2/12/2014 8:29 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>
>
> I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
> introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
> Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
> memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
> excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
> steering that forces some use of the brakes.
>
> On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>> It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
>> bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
>> that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
>> Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
>> many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
>> others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
>> bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
>> us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
>> didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
>> than the m/www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" ="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics tronics.com/contribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contri================
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Bob Turner
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:48 am Post subject: Re: rapco pads |
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I was wondering if the brake fluid on the pad burned?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:33 pm Post subject: rapco pads |
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Don't think so
Alan
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:55 pm Post subject: rapco pads |
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I have a dragging right break…..do you have any instructions for the springs. The problem comes and goes…..
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:13 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: rapco pads
I burned up a tire before I discovered that the master cylinder wasn't releasing pressure after the brakes had been released. Carbonized the sidewall and started really smoking. Had to replace the tire and also had to put some springs on the master cylinders so that they would release. My A&P said that he had to also put springs on the master cylinder of the Pitts S-2 he built. Apparently that is a common problem with these things.
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From: Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: rapco pads
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
There have been fires on RV-10's from excessive braking.
I think at least one was a real fire, but I know that there
have been cases of melted tires too. One was during high
speed taxi that I know of. So it's worth repeating...one
of the biggest things you need to do as a pilot of an
RV-10 is not ride the brakes. You shouldn't do it on
any plane, but the RV-10 as Kelly mentions, doesn't have
that steering nosewheel so people tend to ride them more.
I went through my first set of brake pads MUCH faster than
the 2nd set.....I had to learn my lesson the hard way.
Tim
On 2/12/2014 8:29 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>
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> I agree. The material looks like it got overheated, possibly from
> introduction of brake fluid on the pad.
> Be careful. I don't recall hearing of fires on RV-10s (perhaps faulty
> memory). There have been reported cases of Cirrus brake fires due to
> excessive use of brakes during taxiing. Both aircraft lack nosewheel
> steering that forces some use of the brakes.
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> On 2/12/2014 5:12 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>> It actually could be the leaky caliper that caused them to look so
>> bad. It'll be interesting to hear or see pictures of the other side
>> that didn't have that issue when you finally wear them out.
>> Rapco's done I'm sure 10's of thousands of pads for many models for
>> many years and in many cases I'm sure the materials are the same as
>> others, so I'd be surprised if there was a material problem. I even
>> bought them years ago for my certified plane. They're just "new" to
>> us in RV10 land because it was a more uncommon model of pad that they
>> didn't make back when the rv10 was born. The material isn't different
>> than the material they've used for years though.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:45 pm Post subject: rapco pads |
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Hey Rene’,
We had this problem years ago. I rigged up some springs to totally retract the brake pedals and that fixed it. Then others posted on here that the fix is to simply drill the holes for the axis of the pedal bolts so that a rod passes through both with no friction – so there is no bind in the pedals and they retract very easily. Try that first.
Later, – Lew
From: Rene Felker (rene(at)felker.com)
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:54 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: rapco pads
I have a dragging right break…..do you have any instructions for the springs. The problem comes and goes…..
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: rapco pads |
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| rene(at)felker.com wrote: | I have a dragging right break…..do you have any instructions for the springs. The problem comes and goes…..
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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I had a dragging brake problem that seemed to come and go back in 2008 during my Phase 1 testing. I finally figured out that the co-pilot brakes were not completely releasing on the RH side. The problem was the hinge bolt through the bottom of the pedal was dragging just enough to keep the cylinder from completely retracting when I would occasionally fly the airplane from the right seat. I have one long bolt in each pedal instead of the two short bolts as shown in the plans. Somebody on the forums came up with a source for the one long bolt back when I was building. Simply making sure that there was absolutely no drag on the pedal/bolt took care of the problem. 720 hours with no problems dragging brakes. I got over 300 hours out of my first pads and when I changed them there was still some life left in them. I work very hard to use the brakes as little as possible while taxiing, and it pays off. I switched to Rapco a while back and they are fine. I really like that they have the wear indicator notch in the end of the pad so you are able to tell very easily if it is getting to be time for new pads.
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