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sonexplus(at)libero.it
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

Hi,

I'm a new CH-701 scratch builder and i'm starting to cut of cutting and 

forming blocks...

What are the recomended dimensions for a bandsaw throat opening and for the 

sawing material thick?



And the Sander? Only disc or disc/belt sander? Suggested disc dimension?



What about this two in one:

http://cgi.ebay.it/SEGA-A-NASTRO-CON-LEVIGATRICE-INCORPORATA-REXON_W0QQitemZ190048238559QQihZ009QQcategoryZ20785QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks in advance.



Bruno Melegari

Italy



Setting up my workshop...

dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

I'm not a scratch builder, Bruno but I do woodwork and I have used my sears bandsaw and a disc sander, bench grinder style lathe with scotchbrite wheels (one coarse and one fine) extensively during kit building a 601XL. For the bandsaw, get as much throat depth as you can afford. you will cut plastic fairleads, wood forming blocks, aluminum sheet and extrusion pieces so get multiple blades to allow fast rough cuts on wood and fine finish cuts on all materials. I drill press will come in very handy as well. 



Any combo belt / disc sander will serve you well, but don't skip the lathe with scotchbrite wheels. That is a great way to produce factory looking parts that aren't prone to cracking over time.



He who dies with the most tools wins.



Ed Moody II

Rayne, LA

601XL/Jabiru/cabin area



---- Bruno <sonexplus(at)libero.it> wrote: 

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Hi,

 I'm a new CH-701 scratch builder and i'm starting to cut of cutting and 

 forming blocks...

 What are the recomended dimensions for a bandsaw throat opening and for the 

 sawing material thick?

 

 And the Sander? Only disc or disc/belt sander? Suggested disc dimension?

 

 What about this two in one:

 http://cgi.ebay.it/SEGA-A-NASTRO-CON-LEVIGATRICE-INCORPORATA-REXON_W0QQitemZ190048238559QQihZ009QQcategoryZ20785QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

 

 Thanks in advance.

 

 Bruno Melegari

 Italy

 

 Setting up my workshop...

nfivesl(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

Hi Bruno:



Don't waste your money on that Ebay junk.   You need a full-size band saw (12").  Mine is here and it worked great:

http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Bandsaw.jpg

The refrigerator in the background is not necessary.  



Also, don't buy a small, cheap sander (ask me how I know).  I have this one and it is great:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=43468

I sand Chrome-moly or wood with this one and it works very well. 



This was the first sander I bought and it is junk:  http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Sander.jpg

Same thing on the band saw. The little saws don't work well.  



So in both cases, 12" works for the sander and band saw.



Scott Laughlin

601XL/Corvair Plans-Builder

Finishing up BRS Installation



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zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

He who dies with the most tools wins.



Ed Moody II

Rayne, LA

601XL/Jabiru/cabin area



 Yup , buddy walks through garage door the other day and announced that

I may die now I have already won. I looked at him and said yes but for

where I'm going I need a lot more to build a ladder.



Cdngoose

Do not archive



-- 

No virus found in this outgoing message.

11/4/2006

pacificpainting(at)comcas
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

I think what you meant to say is, "The refrigerator in the background is 

mandatory". You don't have to thank me for correcting your error.



Dave in Salem where it is breaking records for rainfall already.



do not archive

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ter_turn(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

Bruno, if you're poor like me you can get buy with a handheld jig saw and an air/electric angle grinder. The belt sander is almost indispensable though. If you can't afford an air compressor you can get a riveting attachment for your drill. Ha, Ha, you can probably build the airframe for six grand if you scrounge hard enough!

   

  Terry Turnquist

  601 XL Plans

  St. Peters, MO

   

  

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Hi,

I'm a new CH-701 scratch builder and i'm starting to cut of cutting and 

forming blocks...

What are the recomended dimensions for a bandsaw throat opening and for the 

sawing material thick?



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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Bandsaw dimension question

Bruno - Not sure if you can get one of these Ridgid sanders on the continent, but it is THE machine for scratch builders. I've made all of my forms on a 10" Craftsman bandsaw and this sander. It does the bevels and the crimp locations with ease.



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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

Hi Bruno,



I guess I will weigh in on the tools.  I am not a scratch builder, 

but I have been buying and using machine tools for a lifetime.



First the easy one -  I bought one of the $100 combination belt and 

disc sanders by Delta sold at Lowes.  I use it all the time for 

shaping parts after rough cutting them with a band saw or other 

technique.  I never use the disk, but the 42" belt sander has a great 

cast iron work support which is just the thing for grinding relief 

angles on forming blocks.



The band saw is a lot harder.  You can buy one of these for prices 

ranging from under $100 to the price of a new house.  I would suggest 

you limit your choices to saws that have blade guides both above and 

below the work support table.  If it turns out this makes the choices 

too expensive for your budget then do without the band saw all 

together.  It is not necessary anyway.  If you want a slightly slower 

cutting saw with a more natural ability to cut a straight line then a 

nice scroll saw might work better for you.  Again there is a Delta 

scroll saw available at Lowes for around $100 with a cast iron table 

that might work well for you.



In my shop, the drill press gets the most use.  This is followed (in 

order) by the little belt sander, the band saw (for rough cutting 

only), and then the scroll saw.  I have not used my wood lathe yet 

for aircraft purposes, and only have used the metal lathe and milling 

machine for making my own tools.



The tool that gets the most work building a metal airplane is your 

hand held drill.  This is where you should spend the most time 

finding the choice that feels best in your hand.  It will be your 

partner throughout the building process.



Good luck,



Paul

XL fuselage



P.S.  On the few occasions I made forming blocks, I used hardwood 

plywood 3/4" thick with great results.

At 12:57 PM 11/6/2006, you wrote:

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Hi,

I'm a new CH-701 scratch builder and i'm starting to cut of cutting 

and forming blocks...

What are the recomended dimensions for a bandsaw throat opening and 

for the sawing material thick?



And the Sander? Only disc or disc/belt sander? Suggested disc dimension?




	


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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

I bought a cheap Ryobi 10 inch band saw from Home Depot. Its instructions

specifically say "for cutting wood only" and it only came with wood blades.

That being said it was so cheap that I still use it for cutting metal and

will throw it away when it wears out. It did take a bit of searching to find

fine-toothed blades to cut metal on it. It does have top and bottom guides

and has held up well so far but I am not a scratch builder.



-- Craig

601zv(at)ritternet.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

I've been using the same machine and it's been doing quite well with 14 TPI 

blades also from Homely Depot.

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rstone4(at)hot.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

Craig,

     Here is a URL for a company that has every size band saw blade there is 

and their prices are very good.  They also fill orders on the same day as 

they are received.  When the people who made your saw put the notice, "For 

wood cutting only"  they must have been refering to the blade that came with 

it.



                                  http://www.woodworker.com/

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx

ZodiacXL

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

http://oneworld1.inetu.net/manuals/index.php?dir=ryobi/&file=BS1001_269_eng.

pdf



(Quote from page 17)

APPLICATIONS

You may use this tool for the purposes listed below:

- Scroll cutting and circle cutting of wood and wood composition

products

- Relief cutting of wood and wood composition products



I think they were a little concerned with the dust collection system too.

Not that I have let this stop me.



This is where I bought my fine-toothed blades: www.ebandsawblades.com/



-- Craig

sonexplus(at)libero.it
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject: Bandsaw dimension question

Thanks a lot Scott.

Bye



Bruno

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