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kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.ne
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: new kitfox2

I'm new to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I was interested in making the rudder and the stab taller to help the yaw ? I'm still in the stage of building before the covering. What is the thoughts has anyone done this? Also is there anyone in North Cal near paradise that I can see there kitfox and ask questions about building?  [quote][b]

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: new kitfox2

Jerry,



I am in Cameron Park.  Not too far from you as the crow flies.  I have a 

Model IV and would be happy to hook up with you.  The models are different, 

but I followed a couple of guys with Models I and II in my early building 

and it was helpful then.



Lowell

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eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: new kitfox2

Jerry welcome to the most fun you ever experienced,  The Kitfox.

 I have a Kitfox 2 N718PD , I have almost 700 hours  on her now . Never have ever had one single problem with crosswind or adverse  Yaw problems on takeoff or landing or just flying . In my humble opinion there  is no need to enlarge the Vertical stabilizer or rudder .

 Fly safe fly low fly slow 

 John Perry

 580-695-8778

 eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com (eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com)

 Kitfox2 N718PD

 582 cbox 2:62-1

 Ivo inflight 3 blade 68"

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I'm new to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I was    interested in making the rudder and the stab taller to help the yaw ? I'm    still in the stage of building before the covering. What is the thoughts    has anyone done this? Also is there anyone in North Cal near    paradise that I can see there kitfox and ask questions about    building?   	  Quote: 	
		   	
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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

For more fun try  floats!

  

  

 

Noel [quote]   

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Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

I have a set of straight floats WAHOOOO just no fun  putting on and off trailer at lake to go flying . Someone needs to reinvent the  amphibs with the tundra tires so we can land with floats in the bush also .  Maybe that is my next calling OFFROAD AMPHIBS 

  

 John Perry

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

Build them so they can be  retrofitted to Aerocet 1100s...PLEASE!!!

  

  

 

Noel [quote]   

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Kitfox III-A
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Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

forget about it , dont worey, I land mine every time I fly and never had a  problem  mal

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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

Hi Jerry. Amen to what John says. The Model 2 is a sweet little airplane as designed. Just leave it alone and have fun!

   

  



john perry <eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com> wrote:

  [quote]        Jerry welcome to the most fun you ever experienced, The Kitfox.

  I have a Kitfox 2 N718PD , I have almost 700 hours on her now . Never have ever had one single problem with crosswind or adverse Yaw problems on takeoff or landing or just flying . In my humble opinion there is no need to enlarge the Vertical stabilizer or rudder .

  Fly safe fly low fly slow 

  John Perry

  580-695-8778

  eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com (eskflyer(at)lvcisp.com)

  Kitfox2 N718PD

  582 cbox 2:62-1

  Ivo inflight 3 blade 68"

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I'm new to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I was interested in making the rudder and the stab taller to help the yaw ? I'm still in the stage of building before the covering. What is the thoughts has anyone done this? Also is there anyone in North Cal near paradise that I can see there kitfox and ask questions about building?  [quote][b]

jose_m_toro(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: new kitfox2

The beauty of Model II is that it is light, can take off and land from very short fields, and has excellent cross wind handling as it! 

  

 Jose

 Ex Kitfox II/582 (and missing it)

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kitfoxmike

Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Posts: 373

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: new kitfox2

Adverse yaw, what's that, oh! that's what makes the kitfox fun.  Just build it and go fly it, after awhile you won't realize the airplane has the adverse yaw.

Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:02 PM, kitfoxmike wrote:

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		   Adverse yaw, what's that, oh! that's what makes the kitfox fun.


	


Gosh! Then I am not the only one to enjoy  adverse yaw! I just love to 

put my model 3 in a coordinated turn on one side, then to the other 

side, using my feet to keep the ball in the center. I must have been a 

horseman ... in a parallel universe! 



Cheers,

Michel



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rjdaugh

Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Posts: 195

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

I actually wish my Fox had MORE adverse yaw.  



It is always fun to take a Cessna driver for a ride and let them fly to Fox

a bit.  This  is always a real easy way to pick out the tail dragger pilots

or glider pilots.  It may take them a few turns to fine tune their foot

work, but at least they know what their feet are for. 



Randy



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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

I haven't flown a -2, but here is an idea:



I know that some others have added a center stringer

and fillet to the front of the verticle stab for

looks.  I think this would also help with the

stability as well as make it look better.



Gap filling to the rudder will help and adding ribs to

the verticle stab will help too.  That flat sided stab

wanders more than an aerodynamic airfoil and you might

gain an mph or 2 as well.



None of these things will require a lot of weight or

changing to the basic plane.



Maybe someone can lend a pic of their top stringer and

fillet, or verticle stab ribs to assist?



Kurt S.



--- jerry evans <kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm new to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I

 was interested in making the rudder and the stab

 taller to help the yaw ? I'm still in the stage of

 building before the covering. What is the thoughts

 has anyone done this? Also is there anyone in North

 Cal near paradise that I can see there kitfox and

 ask questions about building? 


	




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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: new kitfox2

I've got pictures of my vertical ribs, but the last time I tried to  

post, the file was huge...could I send 'em your way, Kurt, and you  

could post em? Each picture is about 56KB when I send via email. I've  

got pics of several stages of the airfoiling process.



Lynn

On Jan 5, 2007, at 12:38 AM, kurt schrader wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <smokey_bear_40220(at)yahoo.com>



 I haven't flown a -2, but here is an idea:



 I know that some others have added a center stringer

 and fillet to the front of the verticle stab for

 looks.  I think this would also help with the

 stability as well as make it look better.



 Gap filling to the rudder will help and adding ribs to

 the verticle stab will help too.  That flat sided stab

 wanders more than an aerodynamic airfoil and you might

 gain an mph or 2 as well.



 None of these things will require a lot of weight or

 changing to the basic plane.



 Maybe someone can lend a pic of their top stringer and

 fillet, or verticle stab ribs to assist?



 Kurt S.



 --- jerry evans <kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:



> I'm new to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I

> was interested in making the rudder and the stab

> taller to help the yaw ? I'm still in the stage of

> building before the covering. What is the thoughts

> has anyone done this? Also is there anyone in North

> Cal near paradise that I can see there kitfox and

> ask questions about building?

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.ne
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

Lynn I would love to see those pic     new builder Jerry

Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:  [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson 



I've got pictures of my vertical ribs, but the last time I tried to 

post, the file was huge...could I send 'em your way, Kurt, and you 

could post em? Each picture is about 56KB when I send via email. I've 

got pics of several stages of the airfoiling process.



Lynn

On Jan 5, 2007, at 12:38 AM, kurt schrader wrote:



[quote] --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader 

 



 I haven't flown a -2, but here is an idea:



 I know that some others have added a center stringer

 and fillet to the front of the verticle stab for

 looks. I think this would also help  with the

 stability as well as make it look better.



 Gap filling to the rudder will help and adding ribs to

 the verticle stab will help too. That flat sided stab

 wanders more than an aerodynamic airfoil and you might

 gain an mph or 2 as well.



 None of these things will require a lot of weight or

 changing to the basic plane.



 Maybe someone can lend a pic of their top stringer and

 fillet, or verticle stab ribs to assist?



 Kurt S.



 --- jerry evans wrote:



> I'm new to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I

> was interested in making the rudder and the stab

> taller to help the yaw ? I'm still in the stage of

> building before the covering. What is the thoughts

> has anyone done this? Also is there anyone in North

> Cal near paradise that I can see there kitfox [quote][b]

smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: new kitfox2

Lynn and Michel,



My best contact for this is Michel, or Norski sailor

and computer hacker....



Michel.  Can you take Lynn's pics, reduce them and

post them to the old Sportflight site?



I made my verticle stab ribs by taking the one bottom

rib to a copy machine and making a copy of it before

installing it.  Then I used the % reduction function

on the copier to make the other ribs to size.  Cut

them from hobby shop plywood and that was that.



Unfortunately I will not be home to help with this for

over a week.  Michel!  Can you help?



Kurt S.  S-5



--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I've got pictures of my vertical ribs, but the last

 time I tried to  

 post, the file was huge...could I send 'em your way,

 Kurt, and you  

 could post em? Each picture is about 56KB when I

 send via email. I've  

 got pics of several stages of the airfoiling

 process.

 

 Lynn


	


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Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: new kitfox2

On Jan 6, 2007, at 5:36 AM, kurt schrader wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Michel.  Can you take Lynn's pics, reduce them and

 post them to the old Sportflight site?


	


Certainly, Sire!

Lynn, send them to me directly, thank you.



Michel

Jester to the court of one pope and two cardinals



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