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planecrazzzy
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 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: Little details.... |
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Hey Guys,
Got a few more days off ( Birthday ) so I've been goofin around
with the plane of course....Fix'n things and clean'n things up....
I needed to lengthen my Aileron counter balance rods , So I took them
off , Re Drilled and tapped a hole....Needed to repaint them , so
I figured I'd try somethin new....Here's some pictures
Gotta Fly...
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Alot of work to these little guys...
Look, their even right & left....
Now "roll yer eyes" and say
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John Hauck
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APilot(at)webtv.net
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: Little details.... |
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Question: How did you know that you needed airleron counterbalances?
Vic in Sacramento
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possums(at)bellsouth.net
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| Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: Little details.... |
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At 11:57 PM 1/12/2007, you wrote:
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Question: How did you know that you needed airleron counterbalances?
Vic in Sacramento
At 85 mph - depending on you're set up. If you've got really balanced controls,
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maybe 90 mph - lucky you.
Well....the first thing that happens is the "stick" starts shaking so hard
that you can't hold on to it any more and then there's this God Awful
sound....but it's over with pretty
quick, cause the aileron controls or the aileron hinges fracture in
just a few seconds.
So you gotta land with the just the rudder and elevator. Kick right
to raise the left wing,
kick left to raise the right. etc. Don't need those stinking ailerons
anyway - right?
Really, they are there to stop all "the above" from happening before
it ever gets started.
And they work.
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APilot(at)webtv.net
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: Little details.... |
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Once in a Michell B-10 Wiing, I had a very low rumbling sound and some
stick shaking. It was a weird feeling. It came at about 55 mph. I cut
the power and immediiately raised the nose and it stopped. I have not
been over 100 mph in my Mark III Classic and, so far, no shaking.
Wonder if many Kolbers have added counterbalances to their ailerons.
Not a bad idea, but they are not mentioned in my plans. Vic in
Sacramento
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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: Little details.... |
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Vic, My Mk 3 got very mild flutter as low as 70 mph. At 80 it was much more like Possum describes, but the hinge failures didn't happen, thank the dear Lord. Even if you get no failures, it pretty much ruins your flying day and possibly a pair of shorts. Talk to Travis and get them put on, you'll really like your airplane a whole lot better.
Rick
On 1/13/07, APilot(at)webtv.net (APilot(at)webtv.net) <APilot(at)webtv.net (APilot(at)webtv.net)> wrote: [quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot(at)webtv.net (APilot(at)webtv.net)
Once in a Michell B-10 Wiing, I had a very low rumbling sound and some
stick shaking. It was a weird feeling. It came at about 55 mph. I cut
the power and immediiately raised the nose and it stopped. I have not
been over 100 mph in my Mark III Classic and, so far, no shaking.
Wonder if many Kolbers have added counterbalances to their ailerons.
Not a bad idea, but they are not mentioned in my plans. Vic in
Sacramento
when you live at the airport. [quote][b]
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planecrazzzy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Little details.... |
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Just doing some "fine tuning"
I have aways had the counter balance rods on the ailerons...
But during "folding & unfolding" I noticed they weren't quite balanced...
The aileron was heavier....so I moved the rod out more....
I think the "old" gap seal affected it before ...
I've never had Flutter , and I hope I never do...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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APilot(at)webtv.net
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: Little details.... |
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I will talk to Travis about the counter balancers for the ailerons. One
reason that I have not, as yet, had aileron flutter is because I set my
ailerons up slightly to get some reflex in the wing. That adds a small
down load on them at higher speeds. I do not know where the neutral
load is, but I would guess it is about 5 mph above stall speed. My
fears are with high speed flutter. In fact, now that I think about it,
my Mk III acts kind of funny just above stall speed. Maybe that is why
because aileron movement will aggravate yaw. Next time that I get that
funny feeling, I will look out at the ailerons and see if they are
moving. In some flight testing films on flutter, sometimes the flutter
cannot be seen and the control surface just leaves the aircraft. It is
a bad situation.
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