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brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:16 am Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

Is a prop for a pusher belt drive the same as a prop 4 a tractor W/a gear box ?

 my budy needa a prop for a 503 belt  drive 60in to put on his quicksilver float plane

Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker  Michigan Sport Pilot Repair  LSRM-A, PPC, WS Great Sails - Sailmaker  for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022

  From: George Alexander <gtalexander(at)att.net>

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:38 AM

 Subject: Re: Key West Regulator

 --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net (gtalexander(at)att.net)>

Ed:

Iâ€™m not an expert, but I believe that it should be to the airframe.  Every drawing that I have seen shows a common ground (airframe?)  throughout the installation.

A couple of â€œHoweverâ€s thoughâ€¦.

Many installations put a separate grounding strap from the engine to the airframe (a braided strap) and then ground, at a convienant place,  the devices fed by the system.

If the loads off the KW are not too demanding and depending on how they are wired, the brown to the Neg (-) on the KW would be â€œokâ€, not ideal, but â€œokâ€.

As Beauford would say.... "Worth what you paid for it!"  (Who by the way, uses a KW and an EIS.)

DAquaNut(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   George,         ï¿½   I was the one who wired my firefly originally and have 170 hours on  it.   Do I need to   run    

             ï¿½              the brown wire from the engine to the airframe?  That is the only one in  question. It seems 

             ï¿½             Crazy at this point, but I may not have had it right ,all along.

             ï¿½              Ed   Diebel        (FF 62)

   In a message dated 1/22/2012 4:13:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,  gtalexander(at)att.net (gtalexander(at)att.net) writes:

 > 

 >  Ed:

 > The brown should go to ground.  The yellow and the    yellow/black should go to the input (A/C) to the Key West.  The output    (DC) of the Key West would tie into whatever you have that requires the 12V    DC.  The brown (ground) going to the negative side of the output of the    KW may have been someone's way of getting the engine ground to whatever is    being fed by the KW.

 > 

 > For further confusion go to Google and put in    "Rotax Wiring Diagram".  It'll make your hair hurt.

 > 

 > Your results    may vary.

 > 

 > 

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George Alexander

FS II R503  N709FS

http://www.oh2fly.net

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:39 am Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

prop for a 503 belt  >>

  

 Hi,Malcolm

 I  used belts from the local car spares  dealers on my Challenger.

  

 Might be worth changing them a bit sooner than the  `approved` aero suppliers belts.They looked just the same to me but they were  cheap enough.

  

 Pat 

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

Is a prop for a pusher belt drive the same as a prop 4 a tractor  W/a gear box ?

  my budy needa a prop for a 503 belt  drive 60in to put on  his quicksilver float plane

 

  

 Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker Michigan Sport Pilot Repair LSRM-A, PPC, WS  Great Sails - Sailmaker for Ultralight & Light Sport (989)513-3022

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 stand behind both planes with the engine  mounted,,,  and see what direction the props turns,,  if both turn  clockwise,,, or both turn counter clockwise,,,  as far as i know they  could use the same prop....    if they turn opposite  directions,,,  i think you are out of  luck.



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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

if they turn opposite directions,,,  i  think you are out of luck.>>

  

 Can someone explain what possible difference that  makes. The `teeth` seem to be exactly the same, not with any particular bias. I  cannot remember the belt having a direction arrow on it

  

 Pat

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

Patrick L/Kolbers:

 

Let's see if I can help.

 

I think the gentleman was talking about props, not belts.

 

john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

 

 

 

 if they turn opposite directions,,,  i think you are out of luck.>>



 



Can someone explain what possible difference that makes. The `teeth` seem to be exactly the same, not with any particular bias. I cannot remember the belt having a direction arrow on it



 



Pat

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

Can someone explain what possible difference that makes. The `teeth` seem to 

be exactly the same, not with any particular bias. I cannot remember the 

belt having a direction arrow on it



Pat

I thought the question was can they use the same prop on a geared pusher and 

a belted tractor,,,,     if standing at the rear of the plane and they both 

turn clockwise,,,  the the same prop could be used,,,,   if they turn 

opposite directions the props need to have the opposite twist,\\



boyd young

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brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

now i need to buy one   maybe the challanger guys or flitestar phantom group or maybe a ultrastar pilot  anybody mal



 

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  From: b young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com>

 To: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com>; kolb-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:53 PM

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Can someone explain what possible difference that makes. The `teeth` seem to be exactly the same, not with any particular bias. I cannot remember the belt having a direction arrow on it



Pat

I thought the question was can they use the same prop on a geared pusher and a belted tractor,,,,     if standing at the rear of the plane and they both turn clockwise,,,  the the same prop could be used,,,,   if they turn opposite directions the ->

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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: pusher belt drive prop

I thought the question was can they use the same prop on a geared pusher and 

a belted tractor,,,,  >>



If that was I totally missed it. Sorry



Pat

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